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Extract 1 "A complete history of fighting dogs" Mike Homan;

Berichtdoor Stefan » 09 Okt 2010, 20:06

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Re: Extract 1 "A complete history of fighting dogs" Mike Hom

Berichtdoor Stefan » 09 Okt 2010, 20:16

[quote="dannyvectra"]meeeeeer :D :D :D :D :D :D :cool[/quote]

Ga hier maar eens rondneuzen http://www.staffordforum.nl/viewforum.php?f=71
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Re: Extract 1 "A complete history of fighting dogs" Mike Hom

Berichtdoor liberty » 09 Okt 2010, 20:21

@ stefan , heb jij dan ook nog meer foto's van de old cordoba fighting dog , ik kan op heel internet maar twee vinden.

Als je het over een echte vechthond hebt geloof dat deze uitgestorven is omdat ze niet konden fokken met de dieren omdat ze elkaar te lijf gingen
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Re: Extract 1 "A complete history of fighting dogs" Mike Hom

Berichtdoor Stefan » 09 Okt 2010, 20:22

Voor de geïnteresseerden, dit is de stamboom van Dillenger http://www.staffordshirebullterrier.animalpedigree.com/modules/animal/pedigree.php?pedid=9653



Marco de Kruyk heeft de geschreven stamboom van Dillenger en een aantal honden van Arie van Herpen van Mike Homan gekregen en die heeft ze weer aan mij gegeven.
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Re: Extract 1 "A complete history of fighting dogs" Mike Hom

Berichtdoor Stefan » 09 Okt 2010, 20:27

[quote="liberty"]@ stefan , heb jij dan ook nog meer foto's van de old cordoba fighting dog , ik kan op heel internet maar twee vinden.

Als je het over een echte vechthond hebt geloof dat deze uitgestorven is omdat ze niet konden fokken met de dieren omdat ze elkaar te lijf gingen[/quote]


Nee,volgens mij niet.
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Re: Extract 1 "A complete history of fighting dogs" Mike Hom

Berichtdoor Indy » 09 Okt 2010, 20:28

[quote="liberty"]@ stefan , heb jij dan ook nog meer foto's van de old cordoba fighting dog , ik kan op heel internet maar twee vinden.

Als je het over een echte vechthond hebt geloof dat deze uitgestorven is omdat ze niet konden fokken met de dieren omdat ze elkaar te lijf gingen[/quote]


Er is zeer zeker WEL gefokt met de cordoba fighting dog, hij is de basis van de Dogo Argentino.

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Re: Extract 1 "A complete history of fighting dogs" Mike Hom

Berichtdoor liberty » 09 Okt 2010, 20:34

dat staat als reden voor zijn uitsterven beschreven maar de argentijn komt die dan uit een zuivere cardoba?

Of is dat een van zijn vele voorouders?

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Re: Extract 1 "A complete history of fighting dogs" Mike Hom

Berichtdoor Stefan » 09 Okt 2010, 20:34

[quote="Indy"][quote="liberty"]@ stefan , heb jij dan ook nog meer foto's van de old cordoba fighting dog , ik kan op heel internet maar twee vinden.

Als je het over een echte vechthond hebt geloof dat deze uitgestorven is omdat ze niet konden fokken met de dieren omdat ze elkaar te lijf gingen[/quote]


Er is zeer zeker WEL gefokt met de cordoba fighting dog, hij is de basis van de Dogo Argentino.[/quote]


En de basis van de cordoba fighting dog is de Bull Terrier lees ik hier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordoba_Fighting_Dog



En de basis van de Bull Terrier is weer de Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
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Re: Extract 1 "A complete history of fighting dogs" Mike Hom

Berichtdoor liberty » 09 Okt 2010, 20:39

The Cordoba Fighting Dog

The Cordoba Fighting Dog is an extinct dog breed that originated in Argentina. Popular in dog fighting pits and for hunting, this highly aggressive was actually a crossbreed of the:

Bull Terrier

Mastiff

Old English Bulldog.

Appearance of the Cordoba Fighting Dog

The Fighting Dog of Cordoba was large and agile, reaching an average height of around 25 inches. Although they were usually white in color, multicolor coats have also been seen in this breed. Other physical characteristics of the Fighting Dog of Cordoba include:

broad shoulders

cropped ears

excellent agility and strength

muscular builds

wide chests.

Temperament of the Cordoba Fighting Dog

The Cordoba Fighting Dog was highly aggressive and fierce, which made it an excellent fighter and hunter. As a result, were these dogs still around today, they would not made good pets. Cordoba Fighting Dogs were so highly dog aggressive that they preferred fighting to mating, and they often had unstable temperaments. Due to their size, strength and aggression, they would have been dangerous around most people and any other dogs.



When Cordoba Fighting Dogs were used as hunting dogs, they could not hunt in a large pack because of their extreme aggression toward other dogs. These dogs traditionally hunted in a pack of two, a male and a female. Larger groups would turn on their pack mates and abandon the hunt in favor of a fight.

Causes of Extinction

Many factors led to the extinction of the Cordoba Fighting Dog. During the time when dog fighting was most popular, Cordoba Dogs were highly prized as fighters, but there was little demand for them outside the ring. Many of these dogs died in the ring as a result of injuries they received from fighting.



Over-breeding also led to many problems in the breed, including:

deafness

skin problems

unstable temperaments.

As pit fighting for dogs became illegal in more places around the world, many breeders had less incentive to continue reproducing this type of dog.



In addition, because Cordoba Fighting Dogs were so highly aggressive with other dogs, mating was not always successful. In fact, males would sometimes attack and kill females during mating, eclipsing the possibility of pregnancy and new generations of these dogs.

Living Relatives of the Cordoba Fighting Dog

The Cordoba Fighting Dog may be gone, but his blood runs through some breeds of dogs still alive today. One of the most notable descendants of the Cordoba Fighting Dog is the Dogo Argentino. Dr. Antonio Nores Martinez and Augustin Nores Maritinez were responsible for creating this new breed of dog during the 1920s. The goal of the Martinez brothers was to temper the Cordoba Dog's ferocity and ability to hunt big game with a sense of loyalty and the ability to succeed at being a home and family guardian.



The Martinez brothers used the Cordoba Fighting Dog as part of their foundation stock to create the Dogo Argentino. They also added:

the Boxer (for intelligence)

the Bulldog (for chest width)

the Bull Terrier (for fearlessness)

the Dogue de Bordeaux (for jaw strength)

the Great Dane (for size)

the Great Pyreness (for white coat and size)

the Irish Wolfhound (for hunting instinct and speed)

the Spanish Mastiff (for power.)

The resulting Dogo Argentino has a stable temperament and is usually loving with children. Due to its size and strength, dog trainers recommend that you always supervise interaction between a child and a Dogo Argentino. However, in general, the Dogo Argentino is playful and enjoys being part of family activities.



This breed also makes an excellent guard dog. Due to its size and strength, the Dogo Argentino needs to have a dominant and experienced owner. These dogs also need to be socialized early to ensure proper behavior with other dogs and unfamiliar humans.



Resources



Bulldog Information (2007). Dogo Argentino. Origins and history of the Dogo Argentino. Retrieved January 25, 2008, from the Bulldog Information Library Web site: http://www.bulldoginformation.com/dogo-argentino.html.

Del Trueno Kennels (n.d.). CordobaFighting Dog (Base of the Dogo Argentino). Retrieved January 25, 2008, from the Del Trueno Kennels Web site: http://www.deltruenokennels.com/history.html.



HundeGuiden.no (2007) CordobaFighting Dog. Retrieved January 25, 2008, from the HundeGuiden.no Web site: http://www.hundeguiden.no/Hunderasene_Molosser/

The_2st_Group/cordoba_fighting_dog.htm.

Indy

Re: Extract 1 "A complete history of fighting dogs" Mike Hom

Berichtdoor Indy » 09 Okt 2010, 20:49

[quote="liberty"]dat staat als reden voor zijn uitsterven beschreven maar de argentijn komt die dan uit een zuivere cardoba?

Of is dat een van zijn vele voorouders?[/quote]


Wat is uberhaupt een "zuivere" cordoba.

Het was een type vechthond.

En er zit geen Mastiff maar Spaanse Mastiff in de old Cordoba.



Het zal mij trouwens niets verbazen als er ergens in de bergen van Cordoba of ergens anders in de binnenlanden van Argentinie nog ergens exemplaren rond lopen.

Er spelen daar nog een hoop dingen waar wij "buitenlanders" weinig vanaf weten. :knipoog



De Cordoba is uiteraard één van de 9 honden die gebruikt werd voor de ontwikkeling van Dogo, maar werd wel gebruikt voor één van de eerste dekkingen die gedaan werden voor de basis.


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